There are two sides to the story here at the (funny) farm. One is a positive appealing account of the success and ongoing activities of: the company, the workers, the farmers, the cooperative-in-formation, and the visitors from the larger community (who are becoming member-worker farmers). That side of the story is a happy version and will be a welcome read by anybody with an open mind for the fascinating human-interest article.
The other side is not-so-positive and reveals all the problems, personal conflict, injustice, controversy and challenges. It pains me to even spend the time and effort to document it and broadcast its facts. Yet telling that story is necessary, because it has many lessons to give for those who are mature enough to learn. And it is moreso the search for truth than the rose-colored glasses story. The somewhat negative version of the situation is just as much for the public record as the first version. But the story has been divided into two sides for obvious reasons.
The first one is the ideal and everybody wishes that it was that way ONLY. The situation is indeed that way, but not ONLY, because there's a lot more going-on beneath the surface, which is not for everybody to deal with directly. That second one is full of conflict and ongoing drama, it is the challenge to solve all its problems and maintain the first side of the story.
You decide which version you want to read! It's as if the first one is a proverbial "blue pill" and the second one is a proverbial "red pill". The first one is a nice starter, it paints a wonderful scenario. It is a success story and describes the best experiences that have happened.
I suggest the best method to gain the full reality is to digest both pills, you can read both sides and then compare them. But that is something you may not want to indulge in immediately. Take some time and read the first one and check it out, firsthand for yourself. Visit and observe, you can participate. Beware of becoming part of the problems in the second side of the story, yet that is your own karmic fate.
Ahgamen
Admin of Preservation Protocol
Links will be provided below for first and second side of the story. Choose well!
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Friday, July 27, 2018
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PRESERVATION PROTOCOL LTD. CO.
New name of entity being launched at an auspicious time. Our community can now operate under the legal name of Preservation Protocol (llc) More members are signing-on each week and new people are welcome to enquire. Leave a comment here or email at historyfdr@gmail.com
The background of Preservation Protocol is that it was a business formed in 1999 between Ahgamen and Jeweleyah Walsh. It was filed in New York at Dutchess County in 2004 by Peter Tasciotti. It was expanded recently to include many more founding members for the new phase, in these crucial times. The Earth needs us!
Discussions were made with Valeria Gheorghiu and it seems that she is unable to represent us, because there may be a precedent set by her initial consultation with NEFA/Dominik. This is an uncertainty of legal protocol so it is better to err on the side of caution. She has given us a great referrence and we are exploring that new option as well as other sources of legal counsel.
The background of Preservation Protocol is that it was a business formed in 1999 between Ahgamen and Jeweleyah Walsh. It was filed in New York at Dutchess County in 2004 by Peter Tasciotti. It was expanded recently to include many more founding members for the new phase, in these crucial times. The Earth needs us!
Discussions were made with Valeria Gheorghiu and it seems that she is unable to represent us, because there may be a precedent set by her initial consultation with NEFA/Dominik. This is an uncertainty of legal protocol so it is better to err on the side of caution. She has given us a great referrence and we are exploring that new option as well as other sources of legal counsel.
Theft reported at Maybrook Lodge Solidarity Farm
It has come to our attention that on Monday or Tuesday there was a laptop computer of Kevins which went missing. He has reported it to the police.
The police inquired of numerous residents here at the Farm. We were also asked by them if we knew anything and we did not know. In fact, I have never seen his laptop, never knew he had one.
But what I do know in related-matters is that Kevin has constantly accused and insinuated at Ahgamen that he is a thief and will steal. That is patently false, there is no basis for it. I have not done any theft, burglary, etc. and have no convictions for any theft on my record. If you want to look it up, get the legal authorities or an investigator or an attorney firm to find those facts.
We are sorry that Kevin may be missing his possession but we do not know anything regarding it. We know NOTHING. There were multiple new persons at the Farm on Sunday and possibly into Monday. We did not meet any of them. This was part of the community party as publically announced on the Facebook page. Maybe there needs to be background checks on new guests, who are not vetted by anybody who resides here? As Ahgamen suggested to be put into place for protocol in May 2018.
https://www.facebook.com/SolidarityFarmatMaybrook/posts/614510315602017
MEET UP THIS SUNDAY JULY 22
Interested in Intentional Community? Co-housing? Farming Collectives?
Come get informed, inspired, & meet your future collaborators.
Come at 3pm for swimming and/or site tour!
The police inquired of numerous residents here at the Farm. We were also asked by them if we knew anything and we did not know. In fact, I have never seen his laptop, never knew he had one.
But what I do know in related-matters is that Kevin has constantly accused and insinuated at Ahgamen that he is a thief and will steal. That is patently false, there is no basis for it. I have not done any theft, burglary, etc. and have no convictions for any theft on my record. If you want to look it up, get the legal authorities or an investigator or an attorney firm to find those facts.
We are sorry that Kevin may be missing his possession but we do not know anything regarding it. We know NOTHING. There were multiple new persons at the Farm on Sunday and possibly into Monday. We did not meet any of them. This was part of the community party as publically announced on the Facebook page. Maybe there needs to be background checks on new guests, who are not vetted by anybody who resides here? As Ahgamen suggested to be put into place for protocol in May 2018.
https://www.facebook.com/SolidarityFarmatMaybrook/posts/614510315602017
MEET UP THIS SUNDAY JULY 22
Interested in Intentional Community? Co-housing? Farming Collectives?
Come get informed, inspired, & meet your future collaborators.
Come at 3pm for swimming and/or site tour!
STARTING A COMMUNITY: Lessons in the making at Solidarity Farm
Kevin Skvorak has devoted himself to fomenting egalitarian community for over 20 years. He is trained in permaculture and identifies with Regenerative Farming as the most promising practice available to help mitigate the looming climate chaos we face. Currently spearheading Solidarity Farm in Kerhonkson, a new intentional community, Kevin will share his first hand experience with the ins and outs, as well as the highs and lows, of starting a community from scratch.
FORMAT:
3–5pm: Meet and greet, creekside swimming, farm tour
5pm: Presentation w/ Kevin Skvorak
6:30pm: Pot luck dinner
[Please label your dish with all that apply: organic, vegan, gluten-free]
7:30–pm: COMMUNITY TALKING CIRCLE with Dagen Julty
$2–4 Suggested Donation
Kevin Skvorak has devoted himself to fomenting egalitarian community for over 20 years. He is trained in permaculture and identifies with Regenerative Farming as the most promising practice available to help mitigate the looming climate chaos we face. Currently spearheading Solidarity Farm in Kerhonkson, a new intentional community, Kevin will share his first hand experience with the ins and outs, as well as the highs and lows, of starting a community from scratch.
FORMAT:
3–5pm: Meet and greet, creekside swimming, farm tour
5pm: Presentation w/ Kevin Skvorak
6:30pm: Pot luck dinner
[Please label your dish with all that apply: organic, vegan, gluten-free]
7:30–pm: COMMUNITY TALKING CIRCLE with Dagen Julty
$2–4 Suggested Donation
Telling the State Police We are "BAT SHIT CRAZY"
A protected person with Disability is hurled insults constantly - BAT SHIT CRAZY???
Everybody who is interested in Community or at least a modicum of civility in this region must hear the facts of this conflict. Kevin C. Skvorak has repeatedly remarked with slander and libel and harassment, that P. E. Tasciotti aka Ahgamen (well-known, published, spiritual nickname since 1980's) is in Kevin's own psychological diagnosis a "BAT SHIT CRAZY" person.Yes he even described this in detail to the state police when they questioned Kevin as to what happened that he would strike-at and assault Ahgamen. He told them Ahgamen is "BAT SHIT CRAZY" and also Michelle is that same category.
That must have justified in his mind to take actions he's being doing against Ahgamen and Michelle and their family of young children for the past four months. It just escalated to unbearable levels in June and July, to this juncture.
His partner or associate or superior, Dominik and NEFA company have been notified. Still waiting to get a response and a remedy internally...
Dagen has heard some of the basic facts of this ongoing conflict and he has reached-out to provide another mediation. He is still waiting to hear from that party a response and scheduling. Dagen Julty is a community facilitator.
Who or what is Kevin and his "gang of four" to gang up on Ahgamen's family and slander him as being BAT SHIT CRAZY??? Is he perfect, is he a doctor?
ATTENTION: Ahgamen has deeply held religious views and moral rules he and his family abide by. Kevin and Dominik and others at Maybrook Solidarity Farm have been informed. Ahgamen also is disabled, they know this. He is in the category legally protected by State and Federal Law, with disability.
Therefore, please do not continue to abuse these simple farmers who have human rights and they are here because they cannot do other employment in the world, they cannot and yet you have abused them while in a simple agreement. The Disability is not BAT SHIT CRAZY. The Disability is being treated and mitigated by professionals, ot yourself. You're only making your own untreated condition worse, Kevin and others of his associates. As Betty Greenwald of Rosendale informed you, you well know. Of course though, many people question her condition. We as a family know firsthand what goes on in her life.
Betty Greenwald and Kevin Skvorak have been good friends for a long time; maybe that would explain the BAT SHIT CRAZY harassment.
What they chose to do, they did. The suffering has been major towards our whole family and all the friends we brought to help on the farm project. Bear in mind that this is U.S. federal law: https://www.eeoc.gov/laws/types/disability.cfm
Disability Discrimination & Harassment
It is illegal to harass an applicant or employee because he has a disability, had a disability in the past, or is believed to have a physical or mental impairment that is not transitory (lasting or expected to last six months or less) and minor (even if he does not have such an impairment).Harassment can include, for example, offensive remarks about a person's disability. Although the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that aren't very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted).
The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer.
Maybrook Solidarity Farm Pics
Roosevelt's Garden Shylah-Keyboa |
FDR national historic site HomeSchool field trip |
Planting seeds at our garden Maybrook Lodge Kehonkson Accord |
Spring chicks 2018 at Maybrook farm Kerhonkson Accord |
Michael for 1st GaJamBoa June 2018 at Maybrook Lodge Farm Kerhonkson Accord |
Goat with Ahgamen-Keyboa Michelle |
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